# Nuclear fusion, holy grail of clean energy

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Podcast: [The Business](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-business-969727)
Published: 2026-05-29T00:01:00+00:00
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## Resource

Nuclear fusion proponents believe their technology will supply power through the grid by the 2030s. These hopes come at a time when private investment in the commercial industry exceeds $10bn globally.  Is the industry on the cusp of greatness? What companies are getting in early?  Presenter: Dominic O’Connell, columnist at The Times and business correspondent at Times Radio Guests: Warrick Matthews, CEO of Tokamak Energy Dr Melanie Windridge, founder of Fusion Energy Insights,  Producer: Hope Federico Executive Producer: Miriam Hall Photo credit: Tokamak Energy Get in touch: thebusiness@thetimes.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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