# How to Fight the Populists – Liam Byrne MP on ending the Age of Rage Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bunker-news-without-the-nonsense-1209382/how-to-fight-the-populists-liam-byrne-mp-on-ending-the-age-of-rage Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bunker-news-without-the-nonsense-1209382/how-to-fight-the-populists-liam-byrne-mp-on-ending-the-age-of-rage.md Podcast: [The Bunker – News without the nonsense](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bunker-news-without-the-nonsense-1209382) Published: 2026-04-21T03:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/NSR1321127409.mp3?updated=1776699438 Audio file: https://pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/NSR1321127409.mp3?updated=1776699438 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-bunker-news-without-the-nonsense-1209382/episodes/how-to-fight-the-populists-liam-byrne-mp-on-ending-the-age-of-rage Duration seconds: 1877 ## Resource The far-right “Unite The Kingdom” march in London in September 2025 was an unprecedented display of populist, xenophobic anger. It shocked the country – but it didn’t surprise Liam Byrne, the Labour MP and former minister who dissects the Age of Rage in his book, Why Populists Are Winning – And How To Beat Them. He talks to Zoe Grünewald about how mainstream politics took away ordinary people’s certainties and left them prey to unscrupulous, well-funded demagogues – and what we need to do to turn back the populist tide. NB This episode was recorded before the defeat of Viktor Orbán in Hungary. • Buy Why Populists Are Winning through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund the podcast by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Zoë Grünewald. Producer: Liam Tait. Audio production: Tom Taylor. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Artwork by James Parrett. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-bunker-news-without-the-nonsense-1209382/episodes/how-to-fight-the-populists-liam-byrne-mp-on-ending-the-age-of-rage/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bunker-news-without-the-nonsense-1209382/how-to-fight-the-populists-liam-byrne-mp-on-ending-the-age-of-rage.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.