# He said, Xi said – What the Trump-China summit really means

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Podcast: [The Bunker – News without the nonsense](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bunker-news-without-the-nonsense-1209382)
Published: 2026-05-20T03:00:00+00:00
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• It’s Podmasters’ 10th birthday! Get an extra 10% off a year’s Patreon backing. Donald Trump came, he saw, and left Beijing without much to show for his high-stakes summit with Xi Jinping. Behind the pomp and pageantry, tensions over trade, tech and Taiwan didn’t go away. So did two days of diplomacy actually achieve anything? And can Xi’s vision of “great rejuvenation” coexist with Trump’s “Make America Great Again”? William Hurst , Chong Hua Professor of Chinese Development at the University of Cambridge, joins Gavin Esler to break down the relationship. • Back us on Patreon – www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Gavin Esler. Producer: James Liddell. Audio production: Robin Leeburn. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Music by Kenny Dickinson. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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