# Will Sommer and Asawin Suebsaeng: The Groypers Have Taken over Trumpland

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Published: 2026-07-28T20:21:20+00:00
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## Resource

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.thebulwark.com Stephen Miller has a free hand to pump out his racist policies; Trump regularly says blatantly offensive things that are way past a dog whistle; and one-time insurgents at the Heritage Foundation and other MAGA institutions are muscling out people who aren't comfortable with openly embracing bigotry. The groypers are running today's Republican Party. At the same time, Trump's Iran war has opened divisions within the administration, and the leaks are coming fast and furiously. Plus: the gullible people who think their bribes will keep them safe from Trump, Rod Dreher's falling out with JD Vance, the ties between the Tates and the White House should be a bigger scandal, Mitch McConnell may be doing the most Mitch McConnell thing of all, and how Cincinnatians fought back against DHS to protect a local chaplain. Zeteo’s Asawin Suebsaeng joins guest host Will Sommer. Show notes: * Swin's recent reporting on Trump's failed Iran war * Will's recent “False Flag” on MAGA rallying around Andrew Tate * The NYT on the crackup at the Heritage Foundation * New York mag on Justin Sun blowing the whistle on Trump * Swin on the chaplain in Cincinnati * Rod Dreher with a platter of oysters in Paris As always: Watch, listen, hit the like button or leave a comment . We want to hear from you. Ad-free editions of The Bulwark Podcast are available exclusively for Bulwark+ members. The Bulwark Podcast with Tim Miller is available wherever you get podcasts and on YouTube. New shows drop each weekday afternoon. If you like the show, leave a comment and ⭐⭐⭐⭐ wherever you listen. Add The Bulwark Podcast to your player of choice, here .

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