# Are the wheels coming off Reform? Nadim Zahawi

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Podcast: [The Brink](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-brink-7481910)
Published: 2026-07-08T17:07:32+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/the-brink/episodes/6a4e83d51c8f5a97d86ae67e
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## Resource

Watch the full uncut interview HERE: https://open.substack.com/pub/thebrinkpodcast/p/are-the-wheels-coming-off-reform?r=63dafp&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true In this episode of The Brink, Jake is joined by businessman and former Cabinet minister Nadhim Zahawi for a conversation on immigration, political Islam, the future of the British right, and why he made the dramatic decision to leave the Conservative Party for Reform UK. Drawing on his own experience of arriving in Britain as a Kurdish refugee from Iraq, Zahawi reflects on how immigration and integration have changed over the past four decades. He argues that successive governments failed to promote assimilation, allowed communities to become increasingly segregated, and underestimated the growing influence of political Islam in Britain. The conversation explores the threat posed by the Muslim Brotherhood, the small boats crisis, legal migration, and why Zahawi believes Britain has reached a point where urgent action is needed. He explains why he supports banning the Muslim Brotherhood, proscribing the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, and reforming Britain's institutions to confront extremism more effectively. We also discuss his decision to defect from the Conservatives to Reform UK, his conversations with Nigel Farage, and why he believes only Reform has the determination to tackle Britain's biggest challenges. The episode examines the future of the Conservative Party, the prospect of a Reform government, and what meaningful political change would actually require. Don't forget to check out our merch store: https://www.thebrinkmerch.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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