# How Equality Wins (with Kenji Yoshino)

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Podcast: [The Briefing with Michael Waldman](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-briefing-with-michael-waldman-6875018)
Published: 2026-04-01T14:56:42+00:00
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## Resource

Over recent years, we’ve seen a rapid retreat from diversity, equity, and inclusion programs in corporations, universities, law firms, and other institutions. What started with the Supreme Court’s decision to strike down affirmative action in higher education has since been pushed by top government officials. For those who care about equality, what should come next? In their new book, How Equality Wins , Kenji Yoshino and David Glasgow outline a path forward for the equality movement in this time of uncertainty and discuss ways to modernize diversity, equity, and inclusion programs. Listen as Kenji Yoshino discusses how this book can be used by organizations and governments to ensure a pluralistic, equitable society. Recorded on March 12, 2026. Keep up with the Brennan Center’s work by subscribing to our weekly newsletter, The Briefing , at https://go.brennancenter.org/briefing . The Brennan Center is a nonpartisan law and policy institute that works to repair, revitalize, and defend our systems of democracy and justice so that they work for all Americans. The Brennan Center cannot support or oppose any candidate for office.

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