# How Trump played his followers for 'SUCKERS' and grabbed big bucks for himself

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Podcast: [The Briefing with Jen Psaki](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-briefing-with-jen-psaki-6429138)
Published: 2026-07-04T02:32:58+00:00
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Eric Lipton, New York Times investigative reporter, talks with Jen Psaki about the unprecedented amounts of money Donald Trump and his family is making while he is in office, and Trump's shamelessness about the conflicts of interest earning huge windfalls for his sons.

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