# Artemis II Splashdown ...Plus, Hapless Vance heads to Pakistan saddled with Trump's Iran folly

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Podcast: [The Briefing with Jen Psaki](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-briefing-with-jen-psaki-6429138)
Published: 2026-04-11T03:16:51+00:00
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With the global economy in upheaval and his domestic approval dropping like a rock, Donald Trump is sending his number 2, JD Vance to Pakistan to try to make a deal with the Iranians that allows Trump to get out of the war he started with Iran with as few embarrassing concessions as possible. Adm. John Kirby (ret.), former Pentagon press secretary, and Robert Malley, former special envoy for Iran, talk with Jen Psaki about the challenges Vance will face.

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