# One-On-One: Former Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd

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Podcast: [The Bret Baier Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bret-baier-podcast-1161860)
Published: 2026-05-12T22:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Outside of China, few understand the inner workings of the CCP better than former Australian Prime Minister, Global President of the Asia Society in New York, and Author of On Xi Jinping, Kevin Rudd. With President Trump’s trip to China fast approaching, he joined Bret to dissect the primary objectives of this month’s summit, the tenuous politics of Taiwan and the Strait of Hormuz, and what a “win” for the U.S. would look like when talks conclude. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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