# The Three Layers of AI Agent Commerce with Jordan Liu | The Breakdown Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-breakdown-440465/the-three-layers-of-ai-agent-commerce-with-jordan-liu-the-breakdown Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-breakdown-440465/the-three-layers-of-ai-agent-commerce-with-jordan-liu-the-breakdown.md Podcast: [The Breakdown](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-breakdown-440465) Published: 2026-04-09T13:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/BWG6266096513.mp3 Audio file: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/BWG6266096513.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-breakdown-440465/episodes/the-three-layers-of-ai-agent-commerce-with-jordan-liu-the-breakdown Duration seconds: 2300 ## Resource x402 just got a lot bigger. The Linux Foundation is now backing it — and maybe Amazon, Google, Stripe, Mastercard, and American Express along with them. In this episode, David sits down with Jordan Liu, co-founder of AIsa — one of earliest builders in the x402 ecosystem, with over 20 million microtransactions already processed. TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Introduction (01:42) What AISA Builds (02:55) X40 Goes Linux (07:30) Nexo Ad (08:07) Adoption and Micropayments (19:58) Nexo Ad and Blockworks IR Promo (21:38) Adoption and Micropayments (Con’t) (25:06) Protocols Roadblocks Future FOLLOW GUEST › Jordan Liu (AIsa) — https://x.com/AIsaOneHQ FOLLOW THE SHOW › David — https://x.com/dcanellis › The Breakdown — https://x.com/TheBreakdownBW SPONSORS › NEXO Nexo is the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your crypto, borrow against it without selling, and trade a range of assets. Now available in the U.S with 30 days of exclusive privileges. Get started at http://nexo.com/breakdown - Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to the Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ DISCLAIMER As always, remember this podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely their opinions, not financial advice. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-breakdown-440465/episodes/the-three-layers-of-ai-agent-commerce-with-jordan-liu-the-breakdown/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-breakdown-440465/the-three-layers-of-ai-agent-commerce-with-jordan-liu-the-breakdown.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.