# Your Kid's Boredom Matters More Than You Think - Lizzie Assa on Independent Play | The Breadwinners Podcast Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-breadwinners-podcast-7566806/your-kid-s-boredom-matters-more-than-you-think-lizzie-assa-on-independent-play-the-breadwinners-podcast Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-breadwinners-podcast-7566806/your-kid-s-boredom-matters-more-than-you-think-lizzie-assa-on-independent-play-the-breadwinners-podcast.md Podcast: [The Breadwinners Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-breadwinners-podcast-7566806) Published: 2026-07-07T11:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/WRTNB4207478776.mp3 Audio file: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/WRTNB4207478776.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-breadwinners-podcast-7566806/episodes/your-kid-s-boredom-matters-more-than-you-think-lizzie-assa-on-independent-play-the-breadwinners-podcast Duration seconds: 3666 ## Resource Most parents think entertaining their kids is the job. Lizzie Assa says the real job is stepping back enough for kids to build the skill of playing independently. Lizzie Assa, founder of The Workspace for Children and author of But I'm Bored, joins The Breadwinners to break down what independent play actually is and why it's disappearing from modern childhood. Alexis and Lizzie get into the difference between a toy and a prompt, why a bored kid is a sign you're doing something right, and how to build independent play skills from toddlerhood through the teenage years. What you'll learn: We co-regulate our kids. When we're a calm presence, they can be one too, they just want to be in the same room as us The permission slip to do less: stepping back and saying less is what gives kids their lead back How to look at how your kid is most successful in play, and give them more of that instead of trying to fix how they play Why a bored kid is usually looking for connection, not an activity How to look at behavior through the lens of curiosity instead of discipline Why no kid is a bad kid, and what changes when you actually believe that Lizzie Assa is a former teacher with a master's degree in education and the founder of The Workspace for Children, a play-based parenting platform with nearly 300,000 followers on Instagram. She is the author of But I'm Bored and works with private clients to build independent play skills in kids of all ages. Join Lizzie’s community: https://www.workspaceforchildren.com/ Her Substack: The Workspace for Children Purchase Lizzie’s ‘But I’m Bored’ book ____________________________________ Join The Breadwinners community: Subscribe on Substack: Follow on Instagram: @wearethebreadwinners Rate & review wherever you listen - it helps more women find th… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-breadwinners-podcast-7566806/episodes/your-kid-s-boredom-matters-more-than-you-think-lizzie-assa-on-independent-play-the-breadwinners-podcast/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-breadwinners-podcast-7566806/your-kid-s-boredom-matters-more-than-you-think-lizzie-assa-on-independent-play-the-breadwinners-podcast.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.