# The Ezra Klein Show: Michael Pollan’s Journey to the Borderlands of Consciousness

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Podcast: [The Book Review](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-book-review-415412)
Published: 2026-05-22T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.nytimes.com/column/book-review-podcast
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## Resource

Today we are delighted to share an episode from our colleagues on “The Ezra Klein Show,” originally published on March 31. Ezra interviewed author Michael Pollan, whose best-selling books include “The Omnivore’s Dilemma,” “In Defense of Food,” and “How to Change Your Mind.” Pollan’s latest book, “A World Appears: A Journey Into Consciousness,” came out earlier this year. It’s an exploration of what consciousness is, and the book is — as our review put it — “highly pleasurable to read.”

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