# 190 – Zone 2 Running: when less exercise might count for more Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-body-of-evidence-1096717/190-zone-2-running-when-less-exercise-might-count-for-more Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-body-of-evidence-1096717/190-zone-2-running-when-less-exercise-might-count-for-more.md Podcast: [The Body of Evidence](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-body-of-evidence-1096717) Published: 2026-06-25T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: http://sites.libsyn.com/213140/190-zone-2-running-when-less-exercise-might-count-for-more Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/thebodyofevidence/Episode_190_Edited_With_Ad.mp3?dest-id=1541786 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-body-of-evidence-1096717/episodes/190-zone-2-running-when-less-exercise-might-count-for-more Duration seconds: 2664 ## Resource Are light runs (Zone 2 runs) better than heavier workouts? Sophie goes on a semi-manic tangent in her most enthusiastic episode yet to answer whether less intense exercise might actually help your fitness level, aerobic threshold and mitochondrial efficiency. Also, Chris tells a funny marathon story and a viewer question tries to fact-check to the fact checkers on whether walking and running burn the same amount of energy. Become a supporter of our show today either on Patreon or through PayPal! Thank you! http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/ https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=9QZET78JZWCZE Email us your questions at thebodyofevidence@gmail.com. Hosts: Christopher Labos & Sophie Tseng Pellar Editor: Robyn Flynn Researcher: Auriane Journet Theme music: “Fall of the Ocean Queen“ by Joseph Hackl Rod of Asclepius designed by Kamil J. Przybos Chris’ book, Does Coffee Cause Cancer?: https://ecwpress.com/products/does-coffee-cause-cancer Obviously, Chris is not your doctor (probably). This podcast is not medical advice for you; it is what we call information. References: 1. Storoschuk, K. L., Moran-MacDonald, A., Gibala, M. J., & Gurd, B. J. (2025). Much Ado About Zone 2: A Narrative Review Assessing the Efficacy of Zone 2 Training for Improving Mitochondrial Capacity and Cardiorespiratory Fitness in the General Population: KL Storoschuk et al. Sports Medicine, 55(7), 1611-1624. 2. Mølmen, K. S., Almquist, N. W., & Skattebo, Ø. (2025). Effects of exercise training on mitochondrial and capillary growth in human skeletal muscle: a systematic review and meta-regression. Sports Medicine, 55(1), 115-144. 3. Inglis, E. C., Iannetta, D., Rasica, L., Mackie, M. Z., Keir, D. A., Macinnis, M. J., & Murias, J. M. (2024). Heavy-, severe-, and extreme-, but not moderate-i… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-body-of-evidence-1096717/episodes/190-zone-2-running-when-less-exercise-might-count-for-more/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-body-of-evidence-1096717/190-zone-2-running-when-less-exercise-might-count-for-more.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.