# Strive & Strategy: The Race to WIPE OUT Corporate Debt

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Podcast: [The Bitcoin Treasuries Podcast with Tim Kotzman](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bitcoin-treasuries-podcast-with-tim-kotzman-7117909)
Published: 2026-05-18T18:40:22+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/timothy-kotzman/episodes/Strive--Strategy-The-Race-to-WIPE-OUT-Corporate-Debt-e3jebno
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Duration seconds: 1725

## Resource

Tim joins Tyler Rowe of Bitcointreasuries.net for a wide ranging discussion of the latest Bitcoin Treasuries news like Strive's SATA daily dividend, Strategy retiring its debt, and the ramifications of the Clarity Act. Disclaimer: NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE - For entertainment purposes only. Tim Kotzman on X: https://x.com/TimKotzman Tyler Rowe on X: https://x.com/TylerCompiler 0:00 - Intro 0:35 - Industry best practices and the move toward clean balance sheets 03:10 - Strive’s SATA moving to daily dividends 04:21 - The impact of a daily news cycle and record dates on capital markets 06:46 - The race to collateralize corporate balance sheets with Bitcoin 09:20 - Impact of the Clarity Act on the stablecoin and yield ecosystem 11:49 - Strategy's debt metrics and early retirement 14:08 - Understanding amplification ratios and tax benefits during drawdowns 18:03 - Future experimentation with digital credit products 21:57 - How daily dividends and attention-based finance accelerate digital cash flow 25:52 - Closing thoughts #podcast #bitcoin #microstrategy #investing #mstr #btc

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