# “I WAS WRONG”: Bitcoin, Nostr, AI & The Reality of Freedom Tech Adoption | Matt Odell

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Podcast: [THE Bitcoin Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bitcoin-podcast-6443613)
Published: 2026-06-26T16:39:29+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, I sit down with Matt Odell for a wide-ranging conversation on the state of Bitcoin, Nostr, and freedom tech in an era of accelerating AI surveillance. Matt opens up about why he returned to X after two years on Nostr only, what he got wrong about adoption timelines, and why he still believes open protocols are the only credible path forward. We get into the tension between self-custody and custodial convenience, the surveillance threat posed by AI-powered data harvesting, and how Odell thinks about building resilient, censorship-resistant systems from his own self-hosted stack at home. FOLLOW ODELL: NOSTR: https://primal.net/odell X: https://x.com/ODELLXYZ PARTNERS & DISCOUNTS: LEDN : Bitcoin-backed lending. Go to ledn.io/walker and unlock liquidity WITHOUT selling your bitcoin. BLOCKSTREAM JADE : BLOCKSTREAM JADE HARDWARE WALLET: Head to https://store.blockstream.com/ and use coupon code WALKER for 10% off! BDIC™ is building an insurance marketplace on the bitcoin standard. Sign up for the waitlist at: http://bdic.io/walker Get a FREE MONTH of Bitcoin miner hosting via https://abundantmines.com/walker/ Buy Bitcoin with River: http://partner.river.com/walker GET FOLD ($10 in bitcoin): https://use.foldapp.com/r/WALKER JOIN THE SUBSTACK TO GET NEW EPISODES DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX: https://walkeramerica.substack.com/ If you enjoy THE Bitcoin Podcast you can help support the show by doing the following: FOLLOW ME (Walker) on @WalkerAmerica on X | @TitcoinPodcast on X | Nostr Personal (walker) | Nostr Podcast (Titcoin) | Instagram Subscribe to THE Bitcoin Podcast (and leave a review) on Fountain | YouTube | Spotify | Rumble | EVERYWHERE ELSE

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