# The Praxeology of Privacy with Max Hillebrand | Bitcoin Infinity Show #205

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Podcast: [The Bitcoin Infinity Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bitcoin-infinity-show-5642148)
Published: 2026-06-01T09:35:56+00:00
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## Resource

Max Hillebrand joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to talk about his new book The Praxeology of Privacy and why privacy sits at the foundation of sound money, self-custody, and the entire cypherpunk project. The conversation traces the prehistory of Bitcoin from David Chaum's anonymous eCash through Hal Finney's proof of work, explains how surveillance distorts prices the same way money printing does, and digs into the tools that make resistance cheap, including CoinJoin, the Lightning Network, and the new White Noise messaging protocol over Noster. Along the way Max makes the case that defending your privacy is far cheaper than attacking it, and that widespread Bitcoin adoption paired with strong privacy could end financial coercion faster than most people think. Connect with Max: https://towardsliberty.com/ Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: Firefish: https://firefish.io/ - Use Code INFINITY! Bull Bitcoin: https://app.bullbitcoin.com/registration/infinity BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom The Bitcoin Infinity Show is a Bitcoin podcast hosted by Knut Svanholm and produced by Luke de Wolf.

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