# How Bitcoin Backed Lending Actually Works with Martin Matejka | Bitcoin Infinity Show #212 Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bitcoin-infinity-show-5642148/how-bitcoin-backed-lending-actually-works-with-martin-matejka-bitcoin-infinity-show-212 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bitcoin-infinity-show-5642148/how-bitcoin-backed-lending-actually-works-with-martin-matejka-bitcoin-infinity-show-212.md Podcast: [The Bitcoin Infinity Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bitcoin-infinity-show-5642148) Published: 2026-07-20T10:00:28+00:00 Episode link: https://fountain.fm/episode/U94ML8xhA3wmStALMVoA Audio file: https://feeds.fountain.fm/PGQg9eWxyOcGhx0uXamY/items/lVFJMx8VhCo0PJOOS7oH/files/AUDIO---DEFAULT---7c6c8546-68d2-4b4f-b9be-9a297004b772.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-bitcoin-infinity-show-5642148/episodes/how-bitcoin-backed-lending-actually-works-with-martin-matejka-bitcoin-infinity-show-212 Duration seconds: 3924 ## Resource Martin Matejka joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to talk about using Bitcoin as collateral for loans without handing your coins to a trust me bro platform like the ones that collapsed in the last cycle. He and Knut get into how Firefish uses Bitcoin layer one tools like multisig, timelocks, and partially signed transactions to keep counterparty risk low, why borrowing in fiat is really a bet against a failing currency, and how self-custody changes what it even means to own an asset. The conversation widens into real estate as a store of value, the illusion of ownership under central planning, and why sound money and abundant energy point toward a freer future. Connect with Martin: https://x.com/MatejkaMar Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: Firefish: https://firefish.io/ - Use Code INFINITY! Bull Bitcoin: https://app.bullbitcoin.com/registration/infinity BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-bitcoin-infinity-show-5642148/episodes/how-bitcoin-backed-lending-actually-works-with-martin-matejka-bitcoin-infinity-show-212/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bitcoin-infinity-show-5642148/how-bitcoin-backed-lending-actually-works-with-martin-matejka-bitcoin-infinity-show-212.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.