# Ira Madison III Reveals Why He's an Angel Season 4 Defender

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Podcast: [The Bitch Is Back with Charisma Carpenter](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bitch-is-back-with-charisma-carpenter-7387807)
Published: 2026-06-23T14:23:00+00:00
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## Resource

The Bitch is Back, and the vault is still open. More of our favorite Patreon interviews are making their way to YouTube for the first time, and this one is a fan favorite. Charisma Carpenter sits down with culture critic and TV writer Ira Madison III for a deep dive into Season 2, Episode 2, Some Assembly Required, Buffy's Frankenstein episode, and one of the most unexpectedly rich hours of the series. They get into the circle of pining, Angel's 241 years of emotional stunting, grief as the real horror of the Hellmouth, and what a Buffy reboot actually needs to get right. Ira makes his case for being one of the few Angel Season 4 defenders on earth, Charisma pushes back, and somewhere in the middle Ira confesses to writing Buffy fan fiction. More from the vault. The B*tch is Back. Full future episodes on Patreon: www.patreon.com/CharismaCarpenter TT: / www.tiktok.com/@charisma_carpenter IG: / www.instagram.com/charismacarpenter

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