# Giles betrays Buffy! Interview with Joanna Johnson

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Podcast: [The Bitch Is Back with Charisma Carpenter](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bitch-is-back-with-charisma-carpenter-7387807)
Published: 2026-03-26T14:40:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this dynamic continuation of the "Dark Age" discussion, Charisma welcomes TikTok educator and author Joanna Johnson to unpack the rebellious "Ripper" phase of Rupert Giles and the heavy burdens of destiny. The two explore the episode’s themes through the lens of education and parenting, emphasizing the critical need for "rupture and repair" and why adults must show their flaws to the next generation rather than just lecturing them. The conversation seamlessly weaves between lighthearted convention memories—like James Marsters effortlessly slipping into his Spike persona to delight fans—and a deep dive into the metaphorical weight of Eyghon's tattoo as unaddressed shame. Complete with personal reflections on feminism and mother-daughter relationships, this episode proves that Buffy remains a powerful mirror for both our hidden pasts and our ongoing real-world struggles. Listen now! Full future episodes on Patreon: www.patreon.com/CharismaCarpenter TT: / www.tiktok.com/@charisma_carpenter IG: / www.instagram.com/charismacarpenter

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