# 2026 Finals Lessons, Giannis’s Next Stop, Brunson’s Apex, and Mike Brown’s Magic Touch With Doc Rivers

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Podcast: [The Bill Simmons Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bill-simmons-podcast-743065)
Published: 2026-06-17T04:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Doc Rivers to talk about the NBA Finals, Knicks coaching, Giannis trades, and much, much more! (0:00) Intro (2:37) Doc Rivers’s NBA Finals reaction, Brunson’s greatness, and Mike Brown’s coaching (01:07:44) Giannis’s next stop, worries for coaches in 2026, and best current referees Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Doc Rivers Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo Brought to you by PayPal. Learn more at paypal.comThe Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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