# E069: Systems Thinking – What Space Research Teaches Us About Innovation Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-big-strategy-podcast-7027508/e069-systems-thinking-what-space-research-teaches-us-about-innovation Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-big-strategy-podcast-7027508/e069-systems-thinking-what-space-research-teaches-us-about-innovation.md Podcast: [The BIG Strategy Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-big-strategy-podcast-7027508) Published: 2025-09-30T12:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://development.brstdev.com/biginnovates/podcast/e069-systems-thinking-what-space-research-teaches-us-about-innovation Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/8c32bcbd-64dd-4f6e-92fc-384157b88d56.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-big-strategy-podcast-7027508/episodes/e069-systems-thinking-what-space-research-teaches-us-about-innovation Duration seconds: 2572 ## Resource Miki Sode is a scientist and educator at Stanford’s d.school. She brings a unique mix of physics, aerospace and bioengineering expertise, including groundbreaking research on bone loss aboard the International Space Station. In this episode, Miki explores how systems thinking, innovation, and human-centred design intersect to tackle complex challenges, both in space and here on Earth. We explore: (05:36) Space research for drug discovery (08:04) Integrative thinking in design (11:30) Bone health, vitamins and athlete impact (13:50) Space-based research opportunities (18:19) Unexpected research on the ISS (21:54) Innovative strategies for growth (26:13) Space station plant research (27:27) Risks of returning space capsules (31:32) Shooting for the moon workshop (35:54) Plant changes in microgravity (37:42) System adaptation in space (41:19) Human-centered design education Connect with Mike Sode on LinkedIn Connect with Jeff Eyet on LinkedIn  Follow The Berkeley Innovation Group  Download The BIG Strategy Playbook for FREE Subscribe to The Berkeley Innovation Group Youtube Channel  Find out more about The Berkeley Innovation Group: www.biginnovates.com ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-big-strategy-podcast-7027508/episodes/e069-systems-thinking-what-space-research-teaches-us-about-innovation/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-big-strategy-podcast-7027508/e069-systems-thinking-what-space-research-teaches-us-about-innovation.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.