# Embodied Knowing: Polanyi, Scripture, and the End of the Mind-Body Divide (Dru Johnson) Ep. #243 Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-biblical-mind-543674/embodied-knowing-polanyi-scripture-and-the-end-of-the-mind-body-divide-dru-johnson-ep-243 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-biblical-mind-543674/embodied-knowing-polanyi-scripture-and-the-end-of-the-mind-body-divide-dru-johnson-ep-243.md Podcast: [The Biblical Mind](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-biblical-mind-543674) Published: 2026-03-12T09:30:00+00:00 Episode link: https://centerforhebraicthought.podbean.com/e/embodied-knowing-polanyi-scripture-and-the-end-of-the-head%e2%80%93heart-divide-dru-johnson-ep-243/ Audio file: https://rss.art19.com/episodes/faf5e4a9-bb15-45c3-80cd-9f8054f982c8.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-biblical-mind-543674/episodes/embodied-knowing-polanyi-scripture-and-the-end-of-the-mind-body-divide-dru-johnson-ep-243 Duration seconds: 2716 ## Resource Why does Michael Polanyi matter—and why should Christians care? In this episode, Dru Johnson and Mike Tolliver reflect on the Hebraic Thought Community’s recent book study of Personal Knowledge and explore why Polanyi’s work remains so influential. A chemist-turned-philosopher, Polanyi challenged the modern view of knowledge as detached, purely mental, and objective. Instead, he argued that all knowing is embodied, communal, and tradition-shaped. Science, he insisted, is not merely the collection of neutral facts but a “social fabric” in which communities train people to see significance where others cannot. Learning to read an x-ray, for example, requires apprenticeship—participation in practices that shape perception itself. Dru connects Polanyi’s insights to Scripture, showing how biblical knowing is inseparable from ritual, community, and action. Orthodoxy and orthopraxy are not rivals but entangled realities. You cannot truly see unless you practice. Whether in Proverbs’ call to “incline your ear,” Deuteronomy’s emphasis on communal instruction, or Jesus’ insistence that doing reveals truth, the Bible assumes that knowledge grows through embodied participation. This conversation offers a powerful framework for understanding discipleship, evangelism, and spiritual formation—not as mere belief acquisition, but as formation within a living community of knowing. If you are interested in the books mentioned in this episode, you can learn more here: Personal Knowledge - https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/P/bo19722848.html A Little Manual For Knowing - https://wipfandstock.com/9781610977845/a-little-manual-for-knowing/ Longing to Know - https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/products/9781587430602_longing-to-know Loving to Know - https://wipfandstock.com/9781608… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-biblical-mind-543674/episodes/embodied-knowing-polanyi-scripture-and-the-end-of-the-mind-body-divide-dru-johnson-ep-243/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-biblical-mind-543674/embodied-knowing-polanyi-scripture-and-the-end-of-the-mind-body-divide-dru-johnson-ep-243.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.