# Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling Knows Leadership… And When It’s Lacking

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Podcast: [The Best People with Nicolle Wallace](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-best-people-with-nicolle-wallace-7353285)
Published: 2026-03-16T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Lieutenant General Mark Hertling is a leader and a father. He’s seen war firsthand and knows it should always be a last resort.

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