# Ben Rhodes: “The Best Speakers Build Movements”

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Podcast: [The Best People with Nicolle Wallace](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-best-people-with-nicolle-wallace-7353285)
Published: 2026-05-25T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Ben Rhodes understands how important the messenger is to the message. And looking at the speeches that defined our national identity can show us a way forward.

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