# JF 4256: Visual Mapping Tools Replacing Traditional CRM, Affordable platforms, and The Human Element ft. Patrick Carino Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-best-ever-cre-show-740347/jf-4256-visual-mapping-tools-replacing-traditional-crm-affordable-platforms-and-the-human-element-ft-patrick-carino Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-best-ever-cre-show-740347/jf-4256-visual-mapping-tools-replacing-traditional-crm-affordable-platforms-and-the-human-element-ft-patrick-carino.md Podcast: [The Best Ever CRE Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-best-ever-cre-show-740347) Published: 2026-06-19T08:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/BCRRB1847242515.mp3 Audio file: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/BCRRB1847242515.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-best-ever-cre-show-740347/episodes/jf-4256-visual-mapping-tools-replacing-traditional-crm-affordable-platforms-and-the-human-element-ft-patrick-carino Duration seconds: 3055 ## Resource Matt Faircloth talks to Patrick Carino about his journey from a real estate-oriented childhood to a role at CBRE and now leading a tech revolution in CRE is a masterclass in combining industry expertise with cutting-edge software. He shares how DealNav started as a passion project to replace clunky Excel systems, then evolved into a map-based relationship management tool that helps investors visualize deals geographically, nurture key relationships, and act faster than ever before. Patrick Carino Co-Founder of DealNav Based in: New York City Metropolitan Area Where to find them: https://x.com/PatCarino https://deal-nav.com/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit https://malabarhillcapital.com/ for more info. Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-best-ever-cre-show-740347/episodes/jf-4256-visual-mapping-tools-replacing-traditional-crm-affordable-platforms-and-the-human-element-ft-patrick-carino/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-best-ever-cre-show-740347/jf-4256-visual-mapping-tools-replacing-traditional-crm-affordable-platforms-and-the-human-element-ft-patrick-carino.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.