# JF 4217: From Law to Construction: A Unique Journey ft. Matt McGovern

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Podcast: [The Best Ever CRE Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-best-ever-cre-show-740347)
Published: 2026-04-01T08:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this interview, Ash Patel speaks with Matt McGovern about the behind-the-scenes creation of his landmark project: transforming a 200,000-square-foot historic tower and theater complex in Topeka into a multifaceted masterpiece. Matt shares his strategic approach, detailing how he identified unique value-add opportunities and leveraged government incentives, including tax credits and opportunity zone funds. He explains how he structured deals that integrate development with ongoing operational revenue. Furthermore, Matt reveals the strategic mindset that enabled him to creatively negotiate, buy out partners, and align his construction background with ambitious real estate goals, all without relying on outside investors. Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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