# Ep 1. THE DIPLOMAT: THOMAS JEFFERSON

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Published: 2026-07-03T14:00:00+00:00
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As Iran holds the world’s oil supply hostage and America debates whether to keep paying our enemies to behave, the same question Jefferson faced roars back to life: do we keep buying off our predators, or do we make them stop? Thomas Jefferson’s fight against the Barbary pirates teaches us a lesson we seem to keep forgetting—a free people that does not defend themselves will not stay free for very long. - - - Today's Sponsor: Boll & Branch - Get 20% OFF sidewide at https://BollAndBranch.com/BEN use code ‘BEN’ - - - Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://dwplus.watch/BenShapiroMemberExclusive - - - DailyWire+: Become a Daily Wire Member and watch all of our content ad-free: https://www.dailywire.com/subscribe 📲 Download the free Daily Wire app today on iPhone, Android, Roku, Apple TV, Samsung, and more. 🎆 Celebrate Independence Day with a DailyWire+ membership! 🇺🇸 Our 4th of July SALE offers 3-Months of DailyWire+ for $17.76 📜 📰 Follow me on the Daily Wire app or DailyWire.com to read my daily articles and receive my Friday newsletter. 📘 My book "Lions and Scavengers: The True Story of America (and Her Critics)" is available here: https://dwplus.shop/LionsandScavengers 👕 Get your Ben Shapiro merch here: https://dwplus.shop/BenShapiroMerch - - - Socials: YouTube — https://youtube.com/@BenShapiro Facebook — https://www.facebook.com/officialbenshapiro Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/officialbenshapiro Snapchat — https://www.snapchat.com/officialbenshapiro TikTok — https://www.tiktok.com/@real.benshapiro X — https://twitter.com/benshapiro - - - Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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