# They Called Zionism “The Most Evil Enemy of the Jewish Proletariat”

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Published: 2026-05-10T14:02:52+00:00
Episode link: https://peterbeinart.substack.com/p/bund
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit peterbeinart.substack.com Our guests are Molly Crabapple, author of the newly released, New York Times bestseller, Here Where We Live is Our Country: The Story of the Jewish Bund , and Joshua D. Zimmerman, Professor of History and Chair in Holocaust Studies at Yeshiva University, and author of Poles, Jews, and the Politics of Nationality: The Bund and the Polish Socialist Party in Late Tsarist Russia, 1892–1914 . We discuss the history of Jewish socialism in Eastern Europe and its legacy for debates about Zionism, antisemitism, and socialism today. Topics include… What was the Bund? What did it want? Zionism versus Yiddish The Bund versus Zionism The argument that the Bund’s defeat was a defeat of its ideals The Bund and Women

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