# Natalie Brunell: Leaving the Fiat Matrix Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-becoming-sovereign-podcast-7280876/natalie-brunell-leaving-the-fiat-matrix Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-becoming-sovereign-podcast-7280876/natalie-brunell-leaving-the-fiat-matrix.md Podcast: [The Becoming Sovereign Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-becoming-sovereign-podcast-7280876) Published: 2026-01-26T14:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thebitcoinbusinesspodcast/episodes/Natalie-Brunell-Leaving-the-Fiat-Matrix-e3e4sm8 Audio file: https://anchor.fm/s/fd53c4bc/podcast/play/114503816/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-0-25%2F416769340-44100-2-487903fed7fb8.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-becoming-sovereign-podcast-7280876/episodes/natalie-brunell-leaving-the-fiat-matrix Duration seconds: 3169 ## Resource We are living in a system that is rigged against the average person. In this episode, Brandon Karpeles sits down with Natalie Brunell , host of Coin Stories and author of the new book Bitcoin Is for Everyone . Natalie shares her powerful personal story of emigrating from Poland, watching her family struggle in a new country, and realizing that the American Dream is slipping away due to a broken monetary system. She breaks down: The Immigrant Experience: How her family’s escape from communism shaped her views on money, scarcity, and freedom. The "Fiat Matrix": Why inflation isn't a natural phenomenon but a policy choice that benefits the few at the expense of the many. The "Suicidal Empathy" Trap: Why government welfare programs often trap people in dependency rather than empowering them. The Energy FUD: Why energy is the "currency of the universe" and why Bitcoin's energy usage is a feature, not a bug. Faith & Bitcoin: How discovering Bitcoin brought her back to her faith and why she believes the two are deeply connected. The "Food Bank" Crisis: The shocking reality of tens of millions of people relying on food aid in the richest country on earth. Why "Bitcoin Is for Everyone": Her mission to bridge the gap and explain Bitcoin not just to investors, but to the people who need it most. This episode is a heartfelt exploration of the human side of Bitcoin—how it restores dignity, hope, and the opportunity for a better future. Connect with Natalie & Her Work X: @natbrunell Instagram: @nataliebrunell Book: Bitcoin Is for Everyone (Available on Amazon & Barnes and Noble)Podcast: Coin Stories Sponsor: Bitcoin Well Bitcoin Well is the leading platform for buying and selling Bitcoin in Canada and the US. With Bitcoin Well Infinite, you can now make large purchases o… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-becoming-sovereign-podcast-7280876/episodes/natalie-brunell-leaving-the-fiat-matrix/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-becoming-sovereign-podcast-7280876/natalie-brunell-leaving-the-fiat-matrix.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.