# How FHIRplace Is Testing Interoperability at Real-World Scale

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Podcast: [The Beat](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-beat-209012)
Published: 2026-07-15T14:18:27+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, host Sandy Vance chats with Timothy Bennett, the Director of Strategic Healthcare Initiatives at Drummond Group, LLC, for his second appearance on the show. With nearly 20 years at Drummond and deep roots in ONC certification testing dating back to 2010, Tim brings a rare long-view perspective to one of the most important questions facing healthcare interoperability today: how do you actually test whether FHIR works at scale in the real world, not just in a proof-of-concept connectathon? This episode introduces FHIRplace, Drummond's new community-driven testing ecosystem, and digs into why business process rules, not just technical standards, are the real challenge standing between FHIR's promise and its production reality.

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