# The Baseload Podcast Episode 39

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Podcast: [The Baseload Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-baseload-podcast-5769878)
Published: 2026-07-02T01:08:42+00:00
Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/thebaseloadpodcast/2958572
Audio file: https://content.rss.com/episodes/162272/2958572/thebaseloadpodcast/2026_07_02_01_04_36_e0d41b32-0a10-4e2a-bff8-f23653eb74ba.mp3
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Duration seconds: 3953

## Resource

I spoke with Sam Berridge and Sarah Lawley , both great guests, very knowledgeable and far more polite than me about the dire straits of our energy policies... 👏 1-July-2026

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