# Where Does the Water Go?

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Podcast: [The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bag-drop-untold-stories-in-golf-1147207)
Published: 2026-06-22T10:28:00+00:00
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## Resource

Every golfer has stood over a putt and guessed. Erik Belgum learned to ask one question instead: where does the water go? In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf , host Matt Considine and co‑host Dr. Kevin Moore (a.k.a. “The Professor”) sit down with Erik Belgum — a design associate with Billy Fuller and Tom Kite, and right now he's elbow-deep in the dirt at Otter Creek in Columbus, Indiana — a Robert Trent Jones original being reimagined into cradle-to-grave golf. He walks Matt and the Professor through the parts of course design nobody romanticizes: the AutoCAD, the budgets, the order of operations, and the moment a green gets approved before it's actually ready. The conversation dives into: How a kid pulling a cobwebbed pull cart in Iowa City ended up self-taught at Atlanta's Bobby Jones muni — on a $300 junior pass, with a five-questions-a-day limit from the pro shop The church pew that changed his life: ending up in a congregation with two working golf architects, Bob Cupp and Billy Fuller The real story of the Billy Bunker — how a highway shoulder, a McDonald's playground, and Dow Chemical turned into the industry standard The Cayman ball: the McGregor experiment Jack Nicklaus commissioned to make 5,000 yards play like 7,000, and the 13 dozen Erik inherited from his mentor Why constraint breeds creativity — bunkerless greens at Setting Down Creek, and slope as strategy at Otter Creek Connect with our guest 💼 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-belgum-2a587874/ 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/billyfullergolfdesign/ Follow The Bag Drop 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebagdrop 🐦 X/Twitter: https://x.com/thebagdropgolf 📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheBagDropGolf Listen to The Bag Drop 🎧 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/u…

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