# Charlie Kirk and the Cross: Little Charlies or Little Jesuses?

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Podcast: [The Bad Roman: Christian Politics for Modern Times](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-bad-roman-christian-politics-for-modern-times-1217940)
Published: 2025-10-09T18:30:00+00:00
Episode link: https://thebadroman.podbean.com/e/charlie-kirk-and-the-cross-little-charlies-or-little-jesuses/
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Duration seconds: 4838

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Is political loyalty pulling our hearts away from Jesus? Craig speaks with Brian Drinkwine, a pastor and church planter who’s seen both the beauty and the brokenness of the American church. After one of Brian’s posts about Charlie Kirk’s death went viral, he found himself in the middle of a national conversation about faith, politics, and misplaced allegiance. Brian shares his story, from growing up in a strict Baptist home to planting churches across the country, and how he learned that following Jesus means laying down every other flag. Together, he and Craig talk about what happens when believers confuse the Kingdom of God with the kingdoms of this world. They dig into: Why early Christians were persecuted for refusing to worship Caesar How politics can sneak in and take the place of Christ What real repentance looks like when we’ve mixed faith with empire The freedom that comes when our only loyalty is to Jesus first Brian also shares how he’s helping others recognize political idolatry and live out the words, “No King but Christ.” Take a listen and ask yourself: where does your allegiance really lie…the flag or the cross? 📖For Full Show Notes: https://www.thebadroman.com/show-notes/episode-145 🤝Connect with Brian Drinkwine: Email: brian@briandrinkwine.com Website: https://briandrinkwine.com/ Linkedin X Facebook Instagram Ministry at Breakthrough Church 💕 3 WAYS TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT: TASTE IT BAD ROMAN SALSA, ADD TO THE BAG thebadroman.com/donate, and share with a friend (it's free!)🌶️ Key Moments: (0:22) Discussing reactions to Charlie Kirk's death (0:48) Brian Drinkwine's background (4:09) The viral post about Charlie Kirk (10:45) Addressing the church's response (23:52) Reflections on the memorial service (29:19) The danger of political allegiance (35:32) Earl…

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