# Marisa Renee Lee on Life, Love, Loss, Grief, Hope, Healing and her New Book Waiting for Dawn: Living with Uncertainty Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-back-room-with-andy-ostroy-5638395/marisa-renee-lee-on-life-love-loss-grief-hope-healing-and-her-new-book-waiting-for-dawn-living-with-uncertainty Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-back-room-with-andy-ostroy-5638395/marisa-renee-lee-on-life-love-loss-grief-hope-healing-and-her-new-book-waiting-for-dawn-living-with-uncertainty.md Podcast: [The Back Room with Andy Ostroy](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-back-room-with-andy-ostroy-5638395) Published: 2026-06-23T22:11:05+00:00 Episode link: https://the-back-room-with-andy-ostroy.podcast.radiofreerhinecliff.org/episodes/marisa-renee-lee-on-life-love-loss-grief-hope-healing-and-her-new-book-waiting-for-dawn-living-with-uncertainty Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/media.zencast.fm/the-back-room-with-andy-ostroy/940530e1-529e-4a23-ac61-c71b2a4307a4.mp3?source=feed Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-back-room-with-andy-ostroy-5638395/episodes/marisa-renee-lee-on-life-love-loss-grief-hope-healing-and-her-new-book-waiting-for-dawn-living-with-uncertainty Duration seconds: 2679 ## Resource Marisa Renee Lee is the award-winning and bestselling author of Grief is Love. For her work on grief and healing, she has been featured on Good Morning America and NPR, in Vogue and The Atlantic, among other outlets. Her new book Waiting for Dawn: Living with Uncertainty reflects on her experiences with chronic illness and grief, offering solace to folks living with all kinds of uncertainty. A longtime rabble-rouser of social healing and equity, Lee previously served as a deputy director in the Obama White House and is now CEO of Beacon Advisors, a social-impact consulting firm. Illness and death is all around us. Grief is universal. How can we best navigate it all? And can we ever truly find 'closure'? Marisa and I discuss life, love, loss, grief, hope, and healing...the subjects of her two terrific books. Got somethin' to say?! Email us at BackroomAndy@gmail.com Leave us a message: 845-307-7446 Twitter: @AndyOstroy Produced by Andy Ostroy, Matty Rosenberg, and Jennifer Hammoud @ Radio Free Rhiniecliff Design by Cricket Lengyel ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-back-room-with-andy-ostroy-5638395/episodes/marisa-renee-lee-on-life-love-loss-grief-hope-healing-and-her-new-book-waiting-for-dawn-living-with-uncertainty/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-back-room-with-andy-ostroy-5638395/marisa-renee-lee-on-life-love-loss-grief-hope-healing-and-her-new-book-waiting-for-dawn-living-with-uncertainty.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.