# 43. Jeff and Mark’s Travels & Ministry as Farming

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Podcast: [The Average Pastor Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-average-pastor-podcast-7074360)
Published: 2026-05-21T11:00:01+00:00
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## Resource

Drake Epkes fills in for Jake as Jeff and Mark recount their recent adventures in Zambia and East Asia. They discuss what happens when we view ministry as farming and embrace the slow but steady process of planting and harvesting. Check out the links below for some photos related to the discussion! Photo of the current cable bridge Example of the Pedestrian Bridge that will be built If you'd like to contribute to the work in Zambia, go to http://veritascommunity.org/give and select "Zambia Fund" from the dropdown menu! If you'd like to contact us, ask a question or submit a topic for conversation, send us an email at averagepastorpodcast@gmail.com .

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