# 29. Special Guest Ryan Hamby: Talking Behind Jeff’s Back & Santa Barbara Church Plant

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Podcast: [The Average Pastor Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-average-pastor-podcast-7074360)
Published: 2025-11-10T17:44:47+00:00
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Duration seconds: 4786

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Jeff has gone to a better place (Zambia)! In his absence, Mark and Jake are joined by Ryan Hamby, who will soon be planting a church in Santa Barbara, California.

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