# Ep 276: The Controls Integration Problem: When IT, Finance, and Risk Don't Talk w/ Marc Walrod (Clearsulting)

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Published: 2026-03-03T11:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

This week, we'll be joined by Marc Walrod, Controls Integration Leader at Clearsulting. Marc shares why controls integration needs to start far earlier than most organizations think, often in what he calls phase zero of a major transformation. From ERP implementations to rolling out AI across the enterprise, he explains how waiting too long to involve controls can create costly rework and unnecessary risk. He also walks through common myths management holds about controls, like assuming a well-known ERP system comes with sufficient controls already built in and outlines practical warning signs teams can watch for to ensure controls are part of the conversation before go live. If you are attending GAM Conference, be sure to stop by the booth 111 to connect with Marc and the Clearsulting team. Newsletter: https://www2.clearsulting.com/clearsulting/newsletter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/clearsulting YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Clearsulting Be sure to connect with Marc on LinkedIn. 9:18 - Actually Implementing ERP Softwares 11:26 - Integration Over Installation 13:45 - Clearsulting Methodology 15:10 - Why "Simple" Implementations Rarely Actually Simple 17:00 - The Cross-Functional Coordination Problem 20:38 - Phase Zero: Where Controls Actually Begin 27:50 - Scoping Controls Without Overcomplicating the Project 32:55 - Why Data Literacy Matters in Major Implementations 35:47 - AI and the Future of Internal Controls 39:12 – Final Thoughts Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn , Instagram , and TikTok . Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel . This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics , the services firm that helps audit…

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