# Are the Chiefs and Lions still who we think they are?

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Podcast: [The Athletic Football Show: A show about the NFL](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-athletic-football-show-a-show-about-the-nfl-1365826)
Published: 2026-07-01T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Nine questions answered, six more to go. On this edition of our Lingering Questions series, Robert Mays, Derrik Klassen and Dave Helman dig into the following: The Lions are the betting favorite to win the NFC North...should they be? Can the Colts' second-half woes be explained away by Daniel Jones' injuries? Do the Chiefs really still deserve the benefit of the doubt? 0:00 Welcome to the show 2:01 Lions release Terrion Arnold 3:55 Are the Lions deserving of the optimism they're getting? 26:46 Can the Colts' woes be blamed on Daniel Jones' injury? 44:05 Do the Chiefs deserve the benefit of the doubt? Host: Robert Mays Co-Hosts: Derrik Klassen and Dave Helman Executive Producer: Michael Beller Senior Producer: Katy Duffy Social Producer: Scott Krinch Follow Robert on Bluesky: @robertmays.bsky.social Follow Derrik on Bluesky: @qbklass.bsky.social Follow Dave on Bluesky: @davehelman.bsky.social Follow Robert on X: @RobertMays Follow Dave on X: @DaveHelman_ Theme song: Haunted Written by Dylan Slocum, Trevor Dietrich, Ruben Duarte, Kyle McAulay, and Meredith VanWoert / Performed by Spanish Love Songs Courtesy of Pure Noise / By arrangement with Bank Robber Music, LLC Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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