# Ep 269: Shane Leaning: How Can School Leaders Create Lasting Change?

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Podcast: [The Art of Teaching](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-art-of-teaching-3572278)
Published: 2026-06-26T06:24:22+00:00
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## Resource

Today I am joined by Shane Leaning. Shane is a Shanghai-based organisational coach who works with international schools around the world. He supports school leaders and teams to strengthen culture, collaboration and meaningful change. He is the co-founder of Work Collaborative and co-author of the best-selling book Change Starts Here. Shane also hosts Education Leaders, a podcast featuring impactful interviews with renowned thought leaders and deep dives into school trends and strategies from around the world, all designed to support school leaders in their leadership journey. Through his work across Asia, the UK and beyond, Shane brings a rich international perspective and a deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities facing school leaders today. Shane’s book, Change Starts Here: https://workcollaborative.com/get-the-book/ Leadership Intensive Programme: https://educationleaders.co/intensive/ Education Leaders Podcast: https://educationleaders.co/podcast/

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