# Ep 260: Dr Adam Fraser and Bob Willetts: Helping Schools and Educators Flourish.

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Podcast: [The Art of Teaching](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-art-of-teaching-3572278)
Published: 2026-04-27T04:05:36+00:00
Episode link: https://theartofteaching.podbean.com/e/dr-adam-fraser-and-bob-willetts-helping-schools-and-educators-flourish/
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Duration seconds: 4254

## Resource

I’m joined by Dr Adam Fraser PhD, and Bob Willetts to explore The Flourish Movement. Their work focuses on the real experience of educators. Not the surface-level conversation, but what sits underneath. The emotional load. The cognitive demand. The quiet accumulation that builds over time.At the centre of this conversation is Secondary Traumatic Stress. It is present in schools more than we often think. It shapes how teachers think, feel, and respond. It also shapes whether people stay in the profession.Adam and Bob bring both research and lived experience. They speak with honesty about what they are seeing across schools, and what needs to change. This is not about adding more to a teacher’s plate. It is about understanding the conditions that allow people to do their best work and remain well while doing it. We talk about what Secondary Traumatic Stress looks like in practice.This is a grounded and important conversation. One that speaks to the reality of teaching, and the responsibility we all hold to care for the people at the heart of it.

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