# 401 | The inner work that unlocks real confidence feat. Alice Njoroge & Jenny Penner

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Podcast: [The Art of Speaking Up](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-art-of-speaking-up-743556)
Published: 2026-02-10T06:58:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2119

## Resource

What if building confidence isn't about changing what you do, but instead about changing what's happening inside your head? In this episode, I'm talking with two Academy graduates, Alice and Jenny, about the inner work that actually creates lasting confidence. They share how learning to work with (not against) their inner critic changed everything, why perfectionism was holding them back, and how they went from overthinking to showing up as confident leaders. If you've ever felt like you need to have everything figured out before you speak up, or wondered if confidence is even possible for you - this conversation will fire you up. Links: Join the next cohort of The Art of Speaking Up Academy: https://jessguzikcoaching.com/academy/ Alice's favorite episode on building momentum: Listen in Apple | Listen in Spotify

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