# Season 6, Episode 9:  Danielle S. Castillejo speak with Vanessa Ogaldez, LAMFT  and Chicago and La Migra

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Podcast: [The Arise Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-arise-podcast-1194909)
Published: 2025-10-17T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Good morning. I just had the privilege and honor of interviewing my colleague, another therapist and mental health counselor in Chicago, Vanessa Les, and she is located right in the midst of Chicago with an eye and a view out of her office towards what's happening with ICE and immigration raids. I want to encourage you to listen into this episode of the Arise Podcast, firsthand witness accounts and what is it actually like to try to engage in a healing process when the trauma may be committed right before someone comes in the office. We know that's a possibility and right after they leave the office, not suggesting that it's right outside the door, but essentially that the world in which we are living is not as hopeful and as merry as we would like to think, I am sad and deeply disturbed and also very hopeful that we share this power inside of ourselves.

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