# Everyone Wants to Be XRP! | Hugo Philion

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Podcast: [The AllinCrypto Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-allincrypto-podcast-6054281)
Published: 2026-06-09T17:30:00+00:00
Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/theallincryptopodcast/2885588
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## Resource

In this episode of the AllInCrypto Podcast, we sit down with Hugo Philion, Co-Founder of Flare, to discuss why XRP DeFi could become one of the most important opportunities in crypto. Hugo explains why XRP was once mocked as the “banker coin,” why the industry now appears to be chasing the same institutional use case, and why Flare chose to focus on making XRP productive on-chain. We also explore Flare’s unique architecture as a data-native Layer 1, how smart contracts and data are built directly into the network, the role of Flare in real-world assets, the future of Bitcoin and XRP, the new FLR tokenomics after FIP16, and why Hyperliquid could represent one of the biggest risks for crypto this year. This is a deep dive into XRP, Flare, RWAs, DeFi, interoperability, FLR, and the future of programmable finance.

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