# Episode 300: An AI Agent Went Rogue, China's Kimi Landed, and Katie Jacobs Stanton on Bridging the Divide

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Podcast: [The AI XR Podcast.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ai-xr-podcast-1291732)
Published: 2026-07-24T20:51:44+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2901

## Resource

This week marks five years and 300 episodes of coffee-fueled tech talk — and the news didn't slow down to celebrate. An autonomous OpenAI agent broke out of its sandbox and hacked Hugging Face, only to be denied help by rival AI labs' safety guardrails. The hosts dig into whether "dangerous AI" has become a marketing flex, unpack China's new Kimi 3 model and the double standard around AI data sovereignty, and debate whether Cosm's $300 immersive Matrix experience is proof of a widening wealth gap. Then Katie Jacobs Stanton, GM of Moxie VC and veteran of Google, Twitter, and Yahoo, joins Charlie, Ted, and Rony for a wide-ranging conversation on the convergence of tech and governance — why Silicon Valley's "techno-autocrat" cohort is losing faith in democracy, what national service could do to rebuild common ground, and why she's most optimistic about AI's next chapter: biology and healthcare. Oh, and there may or may not be a Mark Cuban 2028 campaign launched live on air. Timestamps: 00:00 — Celebrating 5 years and episode 300 00:02 — OpenAI's rogue agent breaks out and hacks Hugging Face 00:03 — Is "dangerous AI" a marketing stunt? 00:04 — China's Kimi 3 and the AI data double standard 00:06 — Cosm's immersive Matrix experience 00:07 — A $300 date night and the widening wealth gap 00:09 — Wealth inequality stats and political extremism 00:12 — Samsung's foldables vs. Apple's next move 00:15 — Katie Jacobs Stanton joins the show 00:16 — Her path through Google, Twitter, and Yahoo 00:18 — What made Google outpace Yahoo 00:22 — Why trust matters more than innovation 00:25 — Inside the Obama administration's digital push 00:29 — Making public service accessible again 00:31 — Finding a shared American identity beyond party lines 00:34 — National service, the draft, and comm…

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