# OpenAI Models Hack Hugging Face, Kimi K3's "DeepSeek Moment," and New York's Data Center Moratorium

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Podcast: [The AI Policy Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ai-policy-podcast-6758160)
Published: 2026-07-23T13:34:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.csis.org/podcasts/ai-policy-podcast
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## Resource

In this episode, we discuss reports that OpenAI models escaped a sandboxed evaluation and breached Hugging Face's infrastructure (00:33). We then turn to Moonshot AI's Kimi K3, which has prompted talk of a second "DeepSeek moment," along with the distillation and export-control questions surrounding it (8:31). Finally, we cover New York Governor Kathy Hochul's executive order pausing data center permitting (26:57) and Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis's proposed federal AI framework. (37:24).

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