# Inside Anthropic's Standoff with the Pentagon and What It Means for Military AI

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Podcast: [The AI Policy Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ai-policy-podcast-6758160)
Published: 2026-02-25T17:19:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3607

## Resource

In this episode, we break down the escalating Anthropic-Pentagon clash, including the best arguments for either side, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's ultimatum, and the potential consequences of designating Anthropic as a "supply chain risk" or invoking the Defense Production Act (00:34). We then discuss several recent stories that are sparking discourse about the economic impacts of AI (28:58) and a senior government official's claim that DeepSeek's forthcoming model was trained using Nvidia's Blackwell chips and frontier model distillation (45:51).

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