# HubSpot CMO Kipp Bodnar on brand discovery in an age of AI search Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-agile-brand-with-greg-kihlstr-m-expert-mode-marketing-technology-ai-cx-1164310/hubspot-cmo-kipp-bodnar-on-brand-discovery-in-an-age-of-ai-search Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-agile-brand-with-greg-kihlstr-m-expert-mode-marketing-technology-ai-cx-1164310/hubspot-cmo-kipp-bodnar-on-brand-discovery-in-an-age-of-ai-search.md Podcast: [The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlström®: Expert Mode Marketing Technology, AI, & CX](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-agile-brand-with-greg-kihlstr-m-expert-mode-marketing-technology-ai-cx-1164310) Published: 2026-07-15T04:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://aglbrnd.co/r/c1e487ec0517584f Audio file: https://prefix.up.audio/s/sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/6a0c9379b23d275dcea75cd0/e/6a4ea5092b60482dd203bd9f/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-agile-brand-with-greg-kihlstr-m-expert-mode-marketing-technology-ai-cx-1164310/episodes/hubspot-cmo-kipp-bodnar-on-brand-discovery-in-an-age-of-ai-search Duration seconds: 1657 ## Resource What if your most valuable future customers are discovering solutions in a place your current attribution models can't even see? Agility requires not just adapting to new channels, but completely rethinking how we measure discovery and value when the customer journey starts with a conversation with an AI. Today, we're going to talk about: - How the shift from keyword-based search to conversational AI is creating a new discipline: Answer Engine Optimization. - Why your current team structure might be the biggest obstacle to winning in the AI era, and how to reorganize talent and process for this new reality. - The critical role of unified customer data in influencing AI-driven recommendations and why it’s becoming the ultimate competitive advantage. To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome, Kipp Bodnar, Chief Marketing Officer at HubSpot. About Kipp Bodnar As CMO of HubSpot, Kipp leads global marketing strategy to drive awareness and demand across a rapidly evolving product suite. He previously served as VP of Marketing, scaling international teams and overseeing demand gen, strategic partnerships, and social media. He’s also a marketing advisor to several SaaS companies, co-author of The B2B Social Media Book, and a respected speaker and blogger. Kipp Bodnar on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kippbodnar/ ---------- Resources ---------- HubSpot website: https://www.hubspot.com/ The Agile Brand podcast is brought to you by TEKsystems. Learn more here: https://aglbrnd.co/r/2868abd8085a9703 We’re proud to be a media partner for #MAICON26 - Oct. 13-15! Learn how AI can power your marketing and business and help you grow smarter. Use code AGILE150 to save! https://aglbrnd.co/r/7fe458ced0f04658 Reach your customers with Reddit. Spend $500 in ad spend, get $500… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-agile-brand-with-greg-kihlstr-m-expert-mode-marketing-technology-ai-cx-1164310/episodes/hubspot-cmo-kipp-bodnar-on-brand-discovery-in-an-age-of-ai-search/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-agile-brand-with-greg-kihlstr-m-expert-mode-marketing-technology-ai-cx-1164310/hubspot-cmo-kipp-bodnar-on-brand-discovery-in-an-age-of-ai-search.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.