# Using Behavioral Science to Drive Change with Melina Palmer Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-agents-of-change-digital-marketing-podcast-431209/using-behavioral-science-to-drive-change-with-melina-palmer Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-agents-of-change-digital-marketing-podcast-431209/using-behavioral-science-to-drive-change-with-melina-palmer.md Podcast: [The Agents of Change Digital Marketing Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-agents-of-change-digital-marketing-podcast-431209) Published: 2025-12-17T07:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.theagentsofchange.com/610 Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/themarketingagents/EP610_AOC.mp3?dest-id=145771 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-agents-of-change-digital-marketing-podcast-431209/episodes/using-behavioral-science-to-drive-change-with-melina-palmer Duration seconds: 2410 ## Resource Let's be honest: we've all been there. You have a brilliant new idea—a product launch, a software switch, or a new marketing campaign—and you present it to your team or your customers with total enthusiasm. And what do you get back? Crickets. Or worse, pushback. It's not because the idea is bad. It's because the human brain is hardwired to hate change. In this episode, behavioral economist Melina Palmer returns to explain why our brains cling to the status quo and exactly how you can use behavioral science to get the buy-in you need. https://www.theagentsofchange.com/610 Need help with your branding, website, or digital marketing? Reach out to me (Rich Brooks!) today at https://www.takeflyte.com/contact ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-agents-of-change-digital-marketing-podcast-431209/episodes/using-behavioral-science-to-drive-change-with-melina-palmer/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-agents-of-change-digital-marketing-podcast-431209/using-behavioral-science-to-drive-change-with-melina-palmer.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.