# Creating Messages That Stick with Tamsen Webster Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-agents-of-change-digital-marketing-podcast-431209/creating-messages-that-stick-with-tamsen-webster Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-agents-of-change-digital-marketing-podcast-431209/creating-messages-that-stick-with-tamsen-webster.md Podcast: [The Agents of Change Digital Marketing Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-agents-of-change-digital-marketing-podcast-431209) Published: 2025-11-05T07:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.theagentsofchange.com/606 Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/themarketingagents/EP606_AOC.mp3?dest-id=145771 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-agents-of-change-digital-marketing-podcast-431209/episodes/creating-messages-that-stick-with-tamsen-webster Duration seconds: 2494 ## Resource If you've ever wondered why some marketing messages stick while others vanish faster than your last new year's resolution, you're not alone. The problem isn't that you're bad at messaging—it's that you're only talking to half your audience's brain. Message designer Tamsen Webster returns to the show to explain why speaking to both the analytical and automatic brain is the difference between messages that get ignored and ones people can't unhear. She breaks down her ITBA framework (if, then, because, and) and shows us how to craft messages that create not just clicks, but lasting change. If you've been throwing marketing spaghetti at the wall hoping something sticks, this conversation will give you a better approach. https://www.theagentsofchange.com/606 Need help with your branding, website, or digital marketing? Reach out to me (Rich Brooks!) today at https://www.takeflyte.com/contact ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-agents-of-change-digital-marketing-podcast-431209/episodes/creating-messages-that-stick-with-tamsen-webster/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-agents-of-change-digital-marketing-podcast-431209/creating-messages-that-stick-with-tamsen-webster.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.