# Episode 65 | Reimagining Career Pathways for Therapists with LeNaya Smith Crawford & Gabrielle Juliano-Villani

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Podcast: [The Affirming Minds Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-affirming-minds-podcast-7020030)
Published: 2026-02-03T07:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1700

## Resource

​​Grad school trained us to practice therapy—but not the   business of mental health or the range of career possibilities available to clinicians. In this episode of   The Mental Health Edit, Shaina speaks with   Gabrielle Juliano-Villani and   LeNaya Smith Crawford, co-founders of the   REIMAGINE Business Summit, about entrepreneurship, burnout, and reimagining careers beyond the therapy room. Join the REIMAGINE Business Summit 🗓   February 15–20 👉   Free General Admission: https://lenaya-crawford.mykajabi.com/a/2148214964/hNZ7bj8U 👉   VIP Bundle ($97): https://lenaya-crawford.mykajabi.com/offers/QkLmhfbp/checkout?ref=https%3A%2F%2Flenaya-crawford.mykajabi.com%2Fa%2F2148214965%2FhNZ7bj8U The VIP upgrade includes extended access, business intensives, coaching, and—if you’re not already an   Affirm Academy member—a   CE Podcast Pass for   Affirming Minds (ASWB, NBCC, NYSED).  

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